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Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:33 am
by Labubre
Just to share what i've done on my 69 2000

Brake shoes from Raybestos 359PG
Brake MC from Raybestor MC 39561 -> tank a bit high, need base cut not to hit the hood!
Wheel cylinder from Raybestos WC 37214

What was strange is that my mechanic did not need any thread adapter like 3/16-24 female - 10mm metric male and could screw it by hand without effort before thightening.
Previous onwer might have made the change. Who knows.
Adapters:
NAPA wheather head PN 1443
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Metric-Brake-Ada ... ic+adapter

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:09 pm
by DAC21
Wheel cylinder from Raybestos WC 37214

Must have been old stock as that P/N is not good on searches or even on Raybestos website.

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:25 am
by Labubre
S.O.R.R.Y

Correct wheel cylinder ref from Raybestos is : WC37274

Thanks DAC21

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:35 pm
by 23yrRebuild
I've Googled the Raybestos WC37274, and every specification I've found has indicated a Bore diameter of 0.594" ....I don't know what to make of that, seems considerably smaller than the 3/4" or 13/16" Roaster cylinders I'm familiar with...

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:32 pm
by JT68
That is a 510 rear cylinder. It has 10mm fittings which are not correct for any year roadster. -yes-3/8-24 will fit, but the fit is sloppy and dangerous in a brake application. .594 is a significantly smaller cylinder, which will change the bias of the front-rear braking (in this case making the rear brakes less effective=longer stopping distance)

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:24 pm
by DAC21
23yrRebuild wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:35 pm I've Googled the Raybestos WC37274, and every specification I've found has indicated a Bore diameter of 0.594" ....I don't know what to make of that, seems considerably smaller than the 3/4" or 13/16" Roaster cylinders I'm familiar with...
Specs seem to be liquored up. 0.594 is about a 19/32 bore. That just doesn't exist with a Datsun that I know of. I have seen that 0.594 spec listed along with a 13/16 spec. in the same listing (early 510 I believe was 13/16)

But as JT says the elephant in the room is the 10mm fitting. These things are pretty cheap. I wonder how bad you would FUBAR up one of these with a 10mm fitting by chasing it with a 3/8-24 tap to determine if it ruins it or makes it less sloppy? I believe Rising Sun had / has made new rear hardlines that I bought a couple years ago for my parts stash. I asked him (Don? forgot the name) about making the same lines but with 10mm fittings so you could use the cheap 510 cylinders. He thought it was something to consider but......

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/nis ... inder,1952

Re: Brakes job on Roadster 2000 (2023)

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:53 pm
by JT68
Chasing it with a 3/8 tap won't do anything, since the 10mm nominal bore is already too big (hence the sloppy fit) Yes, if you are going to use 510 cylinders, the best way to do it is custom hard lines with 10mm threads at the cylinders. Honestly, the cheapest way is virtually never the best, just get the right cylinders...