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r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:00 pm
by dynaguy
I have an aluminum r16 head that is in very good condition. Measures 3.244" machinist says about .015" to clean it up. This is below the 3.246" minimun thickness spec. Are thicker head gaskets available? TIA Pat

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:35 pm
by spl310
Have you asked if it can be flattened? the thick head gaskets are not currently available to my knowledge.

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:14 pm
by Bwk2000
There are still companies that will custom make them, even for small 1 or 2 gasket orders. Came across one a while back that did a custom set for an old Duesenberg, so anything is possible.

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:54 am
by dynaguy
spl310 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:35 pm Have you asked if it can be flattened? the thick head gaskets are not currently available to my knowledge.
The .015" amount was to "flatten" and clean up surface. Machinist informed me that he knew of a company that makes shims to add to a standard head gasket. Just tryin to find out if a thicker head gasket was already availale. Thanks Pat

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:11 am
by spl310
No, you misunderstand. There are cylinder head specialists that will bake the head and put it in a press to actually flatten it rather than cutting it flat. It will likely need a very light cut after to make it true, but it shouldn't need that much.

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:11 am
by keith0alan
If the cut head fails the bump test the combustion chambers can be reprofiled to fit the piston dome. I have done several with good results.

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:30 am
by 23yrRebuild
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Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:38 am
by redroadster
It's not a great solution , I'll admit ,but you can double head gaskets with aviation sealer between them
or shim it if the deck is machined perfect flat ( at uhaul they did this no sealer and it worked many times )
Make sure your oil stays clean

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm
by dynaguy
spl310 wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:11 am No, you misunderstand. There are cylinder head specialists that will bake the head and put it in a press to actually flatten it rather than cutting it flat. It will likely need a very light cut after to make it true, but it shouldn't need that much.
Thanks for that info.

Re: r16 metric head thick gaskets ?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:34 pm
by RBMann
Hello Pat-

We bought the car and it arrived with a blown head gasket. The head was really shaved so I used a double thick gasket which was $200+ at the time. Six years later the gasket gave way again and I was able to find another head in great condition. The machine shop resurfaced and reconditioned it for less than the cost of the double gasket and now I can use Ted's $20 gaskets. Just an idea.