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Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:42 am
by Campos
Project "Drag 2000" is finally underway....

Plans are simple, BRUTE power and response.

Engine: Sr20"VE"T ; looking to make 500whp on pump gas, 650 whp on C16
Driveline: Will be either a z32 5spd or a considering a Ford C4 auto, with a ford 8.8 rear end

I will be using a Spriso engine mount kit and brake kit. I have many parts already for this project I will post more pics. I just thought i'd get the thread started.

Does anyone have any idea what coil springs those are in my pics? I haven't really looked at them, but they are yellow...hmm, maybe i'll pull one off and clean it up and measure it. Anyways, like i said this is just a teaser, it will be a long drawn out project. stay tuned....

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Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:14 am
by DnCrs13
I can't wait to follow along. What is the difference between an SR20 DET and a VET?

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:19 am
by Campos
DnCrs13 wrote:I can't wait to follow along. What is the difference between an SR20 DET and a VET?
I will be using the Sr20det, but swaping the head off of a Sr20ve N/A motor, the head is far superior to the det head....its a completely different animal and flow is awesome. and it is shimless instead of the hydro style of the det head. They can rev upwards of 9500k.... :smt003

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:47 am
by Skyman
You're going to need some serious tread on the rear to keep that thing from drifting all over. What size wheels are you planning? Can't wait to see this come to fruition.

Kyle

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:06 am
by Campos
Skyman wrote:You're going to need some serious tread on the rear to keep that thing from drifting all over. What size wheels are you planning? Can't wait to see this come to fruition.

Kyle

Wheels will be ssr professor sp1 16x8 front and 16x9 rear.... 255-50-16 Mickey Thompson drag radial. The rear will have z fender flares.

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:24 pm
by ppeters914
Campos wrote:Project "Drag 2000" is finally underway....

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Quite the project. :shock:

I take it you can roll the chassis out from the body. What's the distance from the ground to the top of the driver's door?

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:54 pm
by spriso
Sounds like an excellent project-- we have always wanted to do a VE head swap on one of our cars!

I have motor mount kits in stock when you are ready!

Michael

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:22 am
by DatsunDave
Okay...hurry up and get this thing going. I am having project progress envy already.

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:01 pm
by Campos
spriso wrote:Sounds like an excellent project-- we have always wanted to do a VE head swap on one of our cars!

I have motor mount kits in stock when you are ready!

Michael

Yes, the VE head is where its at! Mazworx had a bone stock sr20det bottem end with a bone stock ve head swap , with a gt3076 on 18psi made 476whp :shock:

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:59 am
by DatsunDave
Which version of the VE head are you using? It is a straight "bolt on" or...?

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:21 pm
by Campos
ppeters914 wrote:
Campos wrote:Project "Drag 2000" is finally underway....

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Quite the project. :shock:

I take it you can roll the chassis out from the body. What's the distance from the ground to the top of the driver's door?

I meant to get you a measurement this weekend but i was busy gettin the M45 ready for IFO, i will check this afternoon when i get off work. OH and yes, it is on casters.

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:24 pm
by Campos
SR20VE FAQ:

What does Neo VVL stand for?
Nissan Ecology Orientated Variable Valve Lift and Timing

The VE (Neo VVL) series of engines is Nissan's answer to Honda's VTEC. The two systems are nearly identical. They use the same concept of multiple cam lobes to provide a low rpm cam ideal for torque and a high rpm cam optimized for hp. The only difference in the Nissan system is that the intake and exhaust cams are triggered indepedently for a flatter, more consistent power band. You can read more about the VTEC system here.

How many different VE motors are there?
There are five (5) VE motors.
SR16VE - 173hp 5 speed Manual 97-2001
SR16VE N1 - 197hp 5 speed Manual 97-98
SR20VE - 187hp CVT 6 speed Auto 97-2001
SR20VE - 204hp 6 speed Manual 2001-Present
SR20VET - 276hp AWD Turbo 2002-Present

How much power does the VE have?
SR16VE - 173hp @ 7800rpm / 119lb torque @ 7200rpm
SR16VE N1 - 197hp @ 7800rpm / 134lb torque @ 7600rpm
SR20VE - 187hp @ 7000rpm / 145lb torque @ 6000rpm
SR20VET - 276hp @ 6400rpm / 228lb torque @ 3200rpm

How much do they cost?
SR16VE - $1000-$1600
SR16VE N1 - $3000+ good luck finding one*
SR20VE - $1000-$2500
SR20VET - unknown
*Only 500 of these engines are thought to have been produced.
**These are average prices based on availability and engine condition. Actual prices may vary.

What are the origins of these motors?
SR16VE - 1.6L VVL motor found in the Nissan Sunny Lucino VZ-R, Sunny GT and Pulsar VZ-R.
SR16VE N1 - 1.6L VVL motor found in the Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 and Pulsar VZ-R N1 SSS.
SR20VE - 2.0L VVL motor found in the Nissan Primera (Infiniti G20 bodystyle), Bluebird, Wingroad, and Autobacs Garaiya.
SR20VET - 2.0L turbocharged VVL motor found in the Nissan X-Trail SUV, and Trailrunner Concept Car.

** Thank-you to Christopher Skaggs, aka "AztekSE-R", for providing this engine information. More info can be found here.

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:10 pm
by Campos
small update...

still taking her apart and starting to cut out some rust...I also got the windshield and dash removed...fun stuff...

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Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:23 pm
by notoptoy
Looks like you are really making the most use out of a tight space there!
Thanks for the update.

BTW, your above post mentions links, but the links aren't there.

Tom

Re: Project "Drag 2000"

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:17 am
by Gregs672000
This will really be fun to watch! Please do keep us updated. I'll never be able to do something like this, but I will get to enjoy it through you! Very cool!

Thanks for all the info on the Nissan motors. It is truly amazing how far the internal combustion engine has come. Even a fully race built U20 would be no match against even the smallest of those motors normally aspirated, and surely not nearly as reliable. I love my '67 2000, but some day I may do something different engine wise with the '68 sitting on the side of the house... waiting...